Indeed, most psychiatrists do not agree with the dwindling minority who still use ECT and, as you say, do not prescribe it.
Why might that be?
I suggest they are very well informed and prefer to be evidence-based. It is your tiny group that needs more awareness, not the majority

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Dr. G You’ve clearly never experienced it as you would not be so quick to dismiss. One of my friends took their own life due to the severity of AD withdrawal. Is that hyperbole too?

Dr John Read The few RCT The 1970s-80, were poorly designed with no follow up beyond a month.It takes much longer than that for The ECT brain fog to lift. There was no assessment of cognitive function pre ECT and none PostECT)
Read madinamerica.com/wpath-content/…, Castleman Report

Other reasons besides “anti psychotics” for shortened lifespan?
heavy smoking (partly to counteract side effects of “antipsychotics”), poverty issues like poor diet, and suicide (partly from hopelessness caused by medical model, partly because of unbearable side effects of meds)

Ruth elkan Dr John Read The only more “ recent EcT studies were tiny( N less than 10 )
There is no basic science understanding of why electrifying the brain to i dice long GM szs repeatedly would be “ therapeutic”
read Castleman 2018 madinamerica.com/wp-content/upl…

Ruth elkan JD IonicInjuryFoundation Dr Annie Hickox Dr John Read Taylor Swift Post Malone NAMI Advocacy Mind Mental Health America He’s making very good arguments that are evidence-based surrounding his questions with ECTs growing prevalence in psychiatry. From what I understand, there’s not that much good data around ECT at all and he points that out. I understand why it would be annoying to a psychiatrist.

Ruth elkan jc IonicInjuryFoundation Dr Annie Hickox Dr John Read Taylor Swift Post Malone NAMI Advocacy Mind Mental Health America The reason why John Read 'sounds like a record stuck in a groove' is that he knows patients are injured by ECT and actually gives a shit about that. Have you actually read anything I posted to you Ruth, or are you stuck in your own bias?
madinamerica.com/wp-content/upl…

jc Ruth elkan IonicInjuryFoundation Dr Annie Hickox Dr John Read Taylor Swift Post Malone NAMI Advocacy Mind Mental Health America Apparently it's just fine, and the John Read bashing MUST take priority for some reason. Patients injured by their psychiatrists are not a priority, but then we knew that...

Ruth elkan jc IonicInjuryFoundation Dr Annie Hickox Dr John Read Taylor Swift Post Malone NAMI Advocacy Mind Mental Health America Why do you think the other 'side' ignores those adverse effects, and leaves patients with severe cognitive impairment and memory loss (both retrograde and anterograde) without support or rehabilitation? Is that OK with you? It's not OK with me.

Ruth elkan JD jc IonicInjuryFoundation Dr Annie Hickox Dr John Read Taylor Swift Post Malone NAMI Advocacy Mind Mental Health America Well... I wish that I had been told how devastating ECT could be so I could have made an informed choice and avoided the lasting ECT damage. Untreated depression can resolve with time. ECT brain injury hasn't for me.

Ruth elkan Dr James Davies (PhD) 💭 The choice to conceptualise it this way is yours to make, but is a category error that leads to dangerous levels of use of 'meds' with negligible benefits and serious additional harmful effects leading to crippling long term disability. It's an epidemic of iatrogenic harm.

'Patients' don't 'have' depression. People in pain & distress get 'diagnosed' with 'depression' by mental health professionals. These are very different things.

''Antidepressants' harm more people than they help (above placebo)' is absolutely a scientifically supported statement.

Spinning such statements into 'anti-psychiatry' is the anti-science agenda, make no mistake.

“Psychiatry has come a long way since the lobotomy.”

A thoughtful review of our handbook in The British Journal of General Practice BJGPLife with some good points to extend in the ?next edition David Taylor

Jean Davison Dr John Read I also find it very sad when people w/ shared symptoms &/or family experiences are divided by dogma. We can learn so much from each other & lift one other--IF we choose to. Some choose not to, cutting themselves off from valuable experiences which may hold keys to resolve probs.

Dr John Read I was moved by her account of the suffering of her, and her family. She blocked me, apparently because I have had very different experiences of psychiatry, which led me to a different perspective. It seems she can't cope with hearing of views different from her own. Sad really.

The stigma comes largely from bio-genetic, othering, explanations. One, of several, reasons for shorter life span is long term use of ‘antipsychotics’.

Factually incorrect, to the tune of several hundred. Facts do matter.